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Post  Mark B Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:04 pm

Michael Enright wrote:Right. Cameras are small enough these days to go ALMOST anywhere!

Again.. affraid
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Post  ounce Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:07 pm

Imagine inserting a stent, there.Shocked
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Post  Mark B Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:08 pm

ounce wrote:Imagine inserting a stent, there.Shocked

Um. There? silent
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Post  Mike MacLellan Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:26 am

Wait wait wait, we start the naughty talk and I don't get an invite?!

I know a few people who have had, um, medical tests done... That involve... Well, let's just say it's the most excruciating thing I can imagine. They said it was indeed the most excruciating thing to happen to them.

With regards to blood, I guess my body prefers my front. Never figured out if it was blood or severe dehydration/whatever, but when I was putting in 16hrs a week running in the middle of the summer, my urine got pretty damn dark, even if I chugged water all day before, during, and after my run. A little online research said that it's common for all the rocking on your kidneys to kill/loosen some blood cells and that's what's passing. Either way, it stopped when I eased up. Hope yours is as easy a fix as that, Mark.
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Post  Mark B Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:36 am

Mike MacLellan wrote:Wait wait wait, we start the naughty talk and I don't get an invite?!

I know a few people who have had, um, medical tests done... That involve... Well, let's just say it's the most excruciating thing I can imagine. They said it was indeed the most excruciating thing to happen to them.

With regards to blood, I guess my body prefers my front. Never figured out if it was blood or severe dehydration/whatever, but when I was putting in 16hrs a week running in the middle of the summer, my urine got pretty damn dark, even if I chugged water all day before, during, and after my run. A little online research said that it's common for all the rocking on your kidneys to kill/loosen some blood cells and that's what's passing. Either way, it stopped when I eased up. Hope yours is as easy a fix as that, Mark.

Not sure if I know exactly what test you're talking about, Mike, but if it's the one I'm thinking of... let's just say it's something that gets your ATTENTION. cyclops

Anyway, I think my problem is just something I have to deal with. An internal hemorrhoid prolapses slightly during a run, gets pinched and irritated, and bleeds. The bigger the strain during the run, the more likely it is for bleeding to occur.* It usually happens only on hard 20-milers. To see it happening on a 6-miler tells me that I need to ramp up my miles very gently and not force it. So really, maybe the solution is the same as yours. Ease up.

*-It could be worse. When I got my PR in Eugene a couple of years ago, I strained so hard in the last six miles that I ended up having to have blood clots surgically removed from a hemorrhoid a week after the race. And if bending over a table, sans trousers, and then having your bare backside hoisted to the eye level of a surgeon and everybody else in the room isn't just about the most compromising position ever, I'd be shocked. Ah, memories.
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Post  Mike MacLellan Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:39 am

Such prurient details! I hear the word strain and immediately think you were trying to produce a BM while running, which is a hilarious (sorry, it's true) mental image. The peep show sounds, well, humbling.

To stop dancing coyly about: penile swab for a whole gamut of STDs. And no, by "I know people" I didn't mean me. What a Face
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Post  Mark B Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:45 am

Mike MacLellan wrote:Such prurient details! I hear the word strain and immediately think you were trying to produce a BM while running, which is a hilarious (sorry, it's true) mental image. The peep show sounds, well, humbling.

To stop dancing coyly about: penile swab for a whole gamut of STDs. And no, by "I know people" I didn't mean me. What a Face

Yeah. That's the one. Also used to check for various non-STD urinary tract infections.

Let's just say it's a great lesson in the difference between pain and extreme discomfort. affraid

As for strain while running, here's the last 50 meters of the race that year.

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Little did I know what was going on right, er, behind me.


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Post  KathyK Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:17 pm

Oh my...
Let's see...how do I comment on this particular thread? I'm giggling like a 5th grader.
I'm not sure I can comment, other than to say...um, I hope any 'bubble blowing' stays insignificant.
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Post  Glenn Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:21 pm

Well, a quick visit to your blog this morning sure motivated me to quit goofing around and get back to work!
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Post  Mark B Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:30 pm

KathyK wrote:Oh my...
Let's see...how do I comment on this particular thread? I'm giggling like a 5th grader.
I'm not sure I can comment, other than to say...um, I hope any 'bubble blowing' stays insignificant.

Ahem, yes. Well. It can't be one of my blogs without the occasional foray into bizarre bodily (dis)functions. Very Happy

Glenn wrote:Well, a quick visit to your blog this morning sure motivated me to quit goofing around and get back to work!

Glad I could keep you on task, Glenn!

Now, I said yesterday that today absolutely had to be be a rest day, no matter what. I'm trying to make the transition from recovery to regular running (I almost wrote "training," which is telling, hm?) too fast, and my body is shooting up flares (well, or something like that), trying to get my attention. So, NO RUNNING today.

And of course, it's sunny and beautiful outside. *Sigh*

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Post  Mark B Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:51 pm

Proprioception/Barefoot Run: 1 mile

Weather: Sunny, 42. Gear: Bare Feet, Asphalt

One of the parts of my strategy since I started back after Tecumseh and injury is to work to improve my proprioception while running. The best (and probably only) way to do that is to embrace my freaky feet and let them feel the ground without anything interfering.

Yes. I'm running barefoot.

Not all the time, mind you. But I'm starting to work in barefoot proprioception drills, jogging laps in my neighborhood. The goal isn't necessarily to shuck my shoes forever; it's to wake up my feet and lower legs to give me better coordination and ground feel. The better your proprioception, the less likely you are to twist an ankle out on a trail somewhere. Besides, it's fun.

The first time I tried it, I did a lap with Alec, staying on the smooth concrete sidewalk. This morning, I decided to try it on the asphalt - aiming for the roughest sections I could find. I've read barefoot running philosophies that warn against running on "dewy grass" - or wearing something to protect your skin - because it'll trick you into doing more than your foot can handle and lead to injury. "Let your skin be your guide," they say, and it make sense. Because your skin is going to complain long before the ligaments and tendons of your foot start screaming.

Anyway, I started out with a single lap around the blog (about .35 miles), and it felt good. So I went for another lap. It still felt good, so I went for a third. That felt good, too, but I decided it'd be wiser to stop. I only want to wake up the nerves and muscles of my feet and lower legs, not zap my whole body.

I didn't wear my HR monitor, but I think my HR was well below my MAF, because you can't go fast as you're trying to figure out how to run barefoot! The soles of my feet feel slightly abraded, but only slightly. A good start.

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Post  Mike MacLellan Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:46 pm

That picture... What a Face
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Post  Mark B Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:01 pm

Mike MacLellan wrote:That picture... What a Face

Yep. At that moment, I was trying to kick the last 100 meters... but instead was kicked in the gut by a gigantic abdominal cramp. The medical guy at the finish line looked worried.
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Post  Dave-O Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:16 pm

/slowly backs out of thread....


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Post  Mark B Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:24 pm

Dave-O wrote:/slowly backs out of thread....



Great. I scared Dave-O away....
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Post  Mike MacLellan Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:56 pm

Mark B wrote:
Dave-O wrote:/slowly backs out of thread....



Great. I scared Dave-O away....

He just doesn't want to get any on his beard.
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Post  Mark B Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:57 pm

Mike MacLellan wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Dave-O wrote:/slowly backs out of thread....



Great. I scared Dave-O away....

He just doesn't want to get any on his beard.

scratch
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Post  Mike MacLellan Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:59 pm

Mark B wrote:
Mike MacLellan wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Dave-O wrote:/slowly backs out of thread....



Great. I scared Dave-O away....

He just doesn't want to get any on his beard.

scratch

Bubbles.
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Post  Mark B Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:02 am

Mike MacLellan wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Mike MacLellan wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Dave-O wrote:/slowly backs out of thread....



Great. I scared Dave-O away....

He just doesn't want to get any on his beard.

scratch

Bubbles.

As if! He's so fast, that the only chance of him being behind me is if I was getting lapped.
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Post  Glenn Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:21 pm

Mike MacLellan wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Mike MacLellan wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Dave-O wrote:/slowly backs out of thread....



Great. I scared Dave-O away....

He just doesn't want to get any on his beard.

scratch

Bubbles.
/Quickly backs out of thread. (You would think I learned yesterday).
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Post  Mark B Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:35 pm

Glenn wrote:
Mike MacLellan wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Mike MacLellan wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Dave-O wrote:/slowly backs out of thread....



Great. I scared Dave-O away....

He just doesn't want to get any on his beard.

scratch

Bubbles.
/Quickly backs out of thread. (You would think I learned yesterday).

All righty, then! I think it's time to see if we can get this blog out of the briar patch and on a path that won't traumatize some of the gentle souls that inhabit the 365Runners community. tongue

I guess I'll talk about my barefoot work. It felt good yesterday, but I could feel it last night and this morning. Clearly, this is not something to rush. Does anybody have experience making a transition into at least some aspect of barefoot running? I'd be interested to know what sort of frequency works at first.
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Post  Glenn Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:49 pm

Well, to quote Milhouse van Houten: "I fear to watch, yet I cannot turn away"
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Post  ounce Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:52 pm

Mark B wrote:
Glenn wrote:
Mike MacLellan wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Mike MacLellan wrote:
Mark B wrote:
Dave-O wrote:/slowly backs out of thread....



Great. I scared Dave-O away....

He just doesn't want to get any on his beard.

scratch

Bubbles.
/Quickly backs out of thread. (You would think I learned yesterday).

All righty, then! I think it's time to see if we can get this blog out of the briar patch and on a path that won't traumatize some of the gentle souls that inhabit the 365Runners community. tongue

I guess I'll talk about my barefoot work. It felt good yesterday, but I could feel it last night and this morning. Clearly, this is not something to rush. Does anybody have experience making a transition into at least some aspect of barefoot running? I'd be interested to know what sort of frequency works at first.

I don't want to burst your bubble, but I think there are still some posts to go before we get on to barefoot running.
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Post  Mark B Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:11 pm

Glenn wrote:Well, to quote Milhouse van Houten: "I fear to watch, yet I cannot turn away"

Well who can argue with Milhouse?

ounce wrote:I don't want to burst your bubble, but I think there are still some posts to go before we get on to barefoot running.

"Burst your bubble?"

Ew!

*Sigh*

I've totally lost control of this blog, haven't I?
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Post  Mark B Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:19 pm

One last attempt to change the subject... the weather!

Now, I know some parts of the country are sweltering, but we're facing this forecast for the next few days:

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BUT... being that this is the Pacific Northwest, that means we'll probably see a few snowflakes but no accumulation. So it looks a lot more exciting than it will be... unless you work for one of the local TV stations, then it's the apocalypse.
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