In the days before the running boom.............
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In the days before the running boom.............
The runner who still holds the TCM record:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/sports/phil-coppess-still-holds-twin-cities-marathon-record.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/sports/phil-coppess-still-holds-twin-cities-marathon-record.html?pagewanted=all
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He's heelstriking in that photo. No way he can run that fast.
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Mike MacLellan wrote:He's heelstriking in that photo. No way he can run that fast.
Says who???
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Nick Morris wrote:Mike MacLellan wrote:He's heelstriking in that photo. No way he can run that fast.
Says who???
Science.
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Science also said there were 109 elements in the Periodic Table. There are at least 115 and counting...
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That's a typical photo off a foot fall from that perspective (front,) doesn't mean it's a solid heel strike. As fast as he's running that foot barely touches. A mid foot strike with some outside roll looks exactly like that from the front. I see some of these barefoot runners running tippy tippy toes with their arms held up like a squirel, what a joke!
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fostever wrote:That's a typical photo off a foot fall from that perspective (front,) doesn't mean it's a solid heel strike. As fast as he's running that foot barely touches. A mid foot strike with some outside roll looks exactly like that from the front. I see some of these barefoot runners running tippy tippy toes with their arms held up like a squirel, what a joke!
Hey. My arms don't look squirrelly!
BTW, note the date of the photo is 1983... midsoles weren't nearly as plush as they are nowadays. More conducive to a midfoot strike rather than a rearfoot strike. Especially going as fast as he does.
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fostever wrote:That's a typical photo off a foot fall from that perspective (front,) doesn't mean it's a solid heel strike. As fast as he's running that foot barely touches. A mid foot strike with some outside roll looks exactly like that from the front. I see some of these barefoot runners running tippy tippy toes with their arms held up like a squirel, what a joke!
HAHAHAHAHA!!
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I bet if he had iPod or red bull, he could run faster.
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Jeez, I just thought it was kind of cool that he still has the course record after all these years. TCM is a fair course - just the right amount of hills and flat, and they offer a pretty decent purse for 2nd tier runners.
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Key word "some!" I too bought some Bikilas and think they serve a purpose. Not knocking all barefoot runners, Zola Budd really kicked butt in her day and still does, but I think she's using shoes now based on the last article I read about her. In 1983 there were some very thick sole trainers that flared out along with the usual racing flats. Running shoes have changed over time, being more durable in many cases, but aren't that much different, really.Mark B wrote:fostever wrote:That's a typical photo off a foot fall from that perspective (front,) doesn't mean it's a solid heel strike. As fast as he's running that foot barely touches. A mid foot strike with some outside roll looks exactly like that from the front. I see some of these barefoot runners running tippy tippy toes with their arms held up like a squirel, what a joke!
Hey. My arms don't look squirrelly!
BTW, note the date of the photo is 1983... midsoles weren't nearly as plush as they are nowadays. More conducive to a midfoot strike rather than a rearfoot strike. Especially going as fast as he does.
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fostever wrote:Key word "some!" I too bought some Bikilas and think they serve a purpose. Not knocking all barefoot runners, Zola Budd really kicked butt in her day and still does, but I think she's using shoes now based on the last article I read about her. In 1983 there were some very thick sole trainers that flared out along with the usual racing flats. Running shoes have changed over time, being more durable in many cases, but aren't that much different, really.Mark B wrote:fostever wrote:That's a typical photo off a foot fall from that perspective (front,) doesn't mean it's a solid heel strike. As fast as he's running that foot barely touches. A mid foot strike with some outside roll looks exactly like that from the front. I see some of these barefoot runners running tippy tippy toes with their arms held up like a squirel, what a joke!
Hey. My arms don't look squirrelly!
BTW, note the date of the photo is 1983... midsoles weren't nearly as plush as they are nowadays. More conducive to a midfoot strike rather than a rearfoot strike. Especially going as fast as he does.
Oh, don't mind me. I was just stirring the pot. But thanks for not comparing me to a squirrel.
Yes, there was a lot of foam back in those days, but gel packs and air compartments were just starting to hit the scene (I think Air Pegs launched in 1983) - and a lot of the engineering of dubious benefit was yet to come.
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Very interesting story. Makes you wonder what he could have done with the perks today's professional runners have.
On the other hand, it goes to show that there's no substitute for mileage. Sounds like he was routinely running 120 miles per week and cranking out some hard 20 milers.
On the other hand, it goes to show that there's no substitute for mileage. Sounds like he was routinely running 120 miles per week and cranking out some hard 20 milers.
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I also wonder (and am too lazy to research) what his HS times were to not be afforded a college scholarship.
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Mark B wrote:
Yes, there was a lot of foam back in those days, but gel packs and air compartments were just starting to hit the scene (I think Air Pegs launched in 1983) - and a lot of the engineering of dubious benefit was yet to come.
1982, I believe. I wore them for years, so I'll look at some old photos to see if I can tell. I also wore Asics Gel-Lytes and Saucony Dixons back then.
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