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Post  Nick Morris on Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:44 pm

I can't remember where, but I read somewhere that it is suggested that you should get an extra minute of sleep (during the week) for each mile that you have to run for that week.  So, for example, if you have 40 miles scheduled for the week, then you should get an extra 40 minutes of sleep (than normal) during that week.

What is your take on the above philosophy?  How much sleep do you normally get during a training cycle?
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Nick Morris on Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:47 pm

As for me, I try to get a good night's rest prior to my long runs.  How much is that, it varies, but I would like to think that I perform better on 8 hours of sleep.  I can definitely feel it during a run, no matter how long or short, when I do not get enough sleep.
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Post  Mark B on Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:48 pm

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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Jerry on Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:03 pm

Sleep is waste of life.

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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Julie on Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:10 pm

I would just listen to your body. If you're falling asleep or struggling to stay awake during the day then you probably need more. I have barely slept for the last 5 yrs but that is how it goes. Coffee is good stuff if you can handle it. Don't most professional runners nap?
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Post  JohnP on Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:38 pm

I wish I could sleep 8 hours, it's been a while, I guess the result of getting older and still drinking a few caffeine pops a day (though this is less than coffee). If you find yourself tired, as Julie suggests, you should try to get more. The one adage I read that definitely is true for me, is that it's the sleep before midnight that counts. It's too hard to sleep in.
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Post  Michael Enright on Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:09 pm

I don't sleep much.

Ran my second-best time in the marathon on about an hour (maybe two) of sleep!
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Schuey on Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:12 am

Haha sleep what is that?


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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Jerry on Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:20 am

Running with the Kennyans summarizes Kennyans' training plan as 3 words: Run, Eat, Sleep.

How good do you want to be as a runner, Nick?
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Nick Morris on Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:24 am

@Jerry wrote:Running with the Kennyans summarizes Kennyans' training plan as 3 words: Run, Eat, Sleep.

How good do you want to be as a runner, Nick?

Haha...I think that I get a good amount of sleep.  I just found the article interesting and was wondering what everyone thinks of the idea.  You know, trying to stimulate some conversation.
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Post  Schuey on Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:07 pm

@Nick Morris wrote:
@Jerry wrote:Running with the Kennyans summarizes Kennyans' training plan as 3 words: Run, Eat, Sleep.

How good do you want to be as a runner, Nick?

Haha...I think that I get a good amount of sleep.  I just found the article interesting and was wondering what everyone thinks of the idea.  You know, trying to stimulate some conversation.

 Jerry doesn't understand what "stimulate some conversation" means. To him stimulate would be having a diet coke. Smile
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Nick Morris on Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:58 pm

@Schuey wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Jerry wrote:Running with the Kennyans summarizes Kennyans' training plan as 3 words: Run, Eat, Sleep.

How good do you want to be as a runner, Nick?

Haha...I think that I get a good amount of sleep.  I just found the article interesting and was wondering what everyone thinks of the idea.  You know, trying to stimulate some conversation.

 Jerry doesn't understand what "stimulate some conversation" means. To him stimulate would be having a diet coke. Smile

 I see Jerry as one of those siblings that likes to dig at you until you snap Smile
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  mountandog on Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:31 pm

sleep is overrated, but I love it when I get a chance for more than 6.
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Mark B on Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:13 pm

@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?

It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Nick Morris on Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:44 pm

@Mark B wrote:
@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?

It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.

You make fatherhood sound so fun.  I can't wait for my shot at it...Smile
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Post  Mark B on Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:38 am

@Nick Morris wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?

It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.

You make fatherhood sound so fun.  I can't wait for my shot at it...Smile

Heh. You know how they say in acts of extreme endurance sports, that you reach a point to where you just can't go any farther... but find to your everlasting surprise that you have opened some untapped well deep within you and you find yourself carrying on stronger than you ever imagined possible?

Yeah, parenthood can be just like that sometimes. Especially at 3 a.m.
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  T Miller on Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:57 am

@Mark B wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?

It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.

You make fatherhood sound so fun.  I can't wait for my shot at it...Smile

Heh. You know how they say in acts of extreme endurance sports, that you reach a point to where you just can't go any farther... but find to your everlasting surprise that you have opened some untapped well deep within you and you find yourself carrying on stronger than you ever imagined possible?

Yeah, parenthood can be just like that sometimes. Especially at 3 a.m.

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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Julie on Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:44 am

@T Miller wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?

It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.

You make fatherhood sound so fun.  I can't wait for my shot at it...Smile

Heh. You know how they say in acts of extreme endurance sports, that you reach a point to where you just can't go any farther... but find to your everlasting surprise that you have opened some untapped well deep within you and you find yourself carrying on stronger than you ever imagined possible?

Yeah, parenthood can be just like that sometimes. Especially at 3 a.m.

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I have a hard time feeling too sorry for the dads on here but I think my family has had a pretty lopsided sleep deprivation with me being the one up at all hours and nursing and pumping and my husband sleeping through anything. So I will try to overlook how my family works and imagine some of you dads are also tired. Although you're not up peeing 5x/night during pregnancy.
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Nick Morris on Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:22 pm

@Julie wrote:
@T Miller wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?

It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.

You make fatherhood sound so fun.  I can't wait for my shot at it...Smile

Heh. You know how they say in acts of extreme endurance sports, that you reach a point to where you just can't go any farther... but find to your everlasting surprise that you have opened some untapped well deep within you and you find yourself carrying on stronger than you ever imagined possible?

Yeah, parenthood can be just like that sometimes. Especially at 3 a.m.

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I have a hard time feeling too sorry for the dads on here but I think my family has had a pretty lopsided sleep deprivation with me being the one up at all hours and nursing and pumping and my husband sleeping through anything. So I will try to overlook how my family works and imagine some of you dads are also tired. Although you're not up peeing 5x/night during pregnancy.

Well, some of the older gentlemen may be up peeing 5x/night, too...hahaha
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Post  Julie on Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:34 pm

Ah, thanks for the laugh!
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  mountandog on Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:29 pm

@Nick Morris wrote:
@Julie wrote:
@T Miller wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?

It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.

You make fatherhood sound so fun.  I can't wait for my shot at it...Smile

Heh. You know how they say in acts of extreme endurance sports, that you reach a point to where you just can't go any farther... but find to your everlasting surprise that you have opened some untapped well deep within you and you find yourself carrying on stronger than you ever imagined possible?

Yeah, parenthood can be just like that sometimes. Especially at 3 a.m.

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I have a hard time feeling too sorry for the dads on here but I think my family has had a pretty lopsided sleep deprivation with me being the one up at all hours and nursing and pumping and my husband sleeping through anything. So I will try to overlook how my family works and imagine some of you dads are also tired. Although you're not up peeing 5x/night during pregnancy.

Well, some of the older gentlemen may be up peeing 5x/night, too...hahaha

6 times.  one for each decade.
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Jerry on Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:09 pm

@mountandog wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Julie wrote:
@T Miller wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?

It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.

You make fatherhood sound so fun.  I can't wait for my shot at it...Smile

Heh. You know how they say in acts of extreme endurance sports, that you reach a point to where you just can't go any farther... but find to your everlasting surprise that you have opened some untapped well deep within you and you find yourself carrying on stronger than you ever imagined possible?

Yeah, parenthood can be just like that sometimes. Especially at 3 a.m.

Like

So True

 
I have a hard time feeling too sorry for the dads on here but I think my family has had a pretty lopsided sleep deprivation with me being the one up at all hours and nursing and pumping and my husband sleeping through anything. So I will try to overlook how my family works and imagine some of you dads are also tired. Although you're not up peeing 5x/night during pregnancy.

Well, some of the older gentlemen may be up peeing 5x/night, too...hahaha

6 times.  one for each decade.

 That's within the ballpark for my marathons.
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Post  Nick Morris on Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:18 pm

@Jerry wrote:
@mountandog wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Julie wrote:
@T Miller wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?

It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.

You make fatherhood sound so fun.  I can't wait for my shot at it...Smile

Heh. You know how they say in acts of extreme endurance sports, that you reach a point to where you just can't go any farther... but find to your everlasting surprise that you have opened some untapped well deep within you and you find yourself carrying on stronger than you ever imagined possible?

Yeah, parenthood can be just like that sometimes. Especially at 3 a.m.

Like

So True

 
I have a hard time feeling too sorry for the dads on here but I think my family has had a pretty lopsided sleep deprivation with me being the one up at all hours and nursing and pumping and my husband sleeping through anything. So I will try to overlook how my family works and imagine some of you dads are also tired. Although you're not up peeing 5x/night during pregnancy.

Well, some of the older gentlemen may be up peeing 5x/night, too...hahaha

6 times.  one for each decade.

 That's within the ballpark for my marathons.

That's what you get for having a squirrel bladder Smile
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Post  Jerry on Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:27 pm

@Nick Morris wrote:
@Jerry wrote:
@mountandog wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Julie wrote:
@T Miller wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?


It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.

You make fatherhood sound so fun.  I can't wait for my shot at it...Smile

Heh. You know how they say in acts of extreme endurance sports, that you reach a point to where you just can't go any farther... but find to your everlasting surprise that you have opened some untapped well deep within you and you find yourself carrying on stronger than you ever imagined possible?

Yeah, parenthood can be just like that sometimes. Especially at 3 a.m.

Like

So True

 
I have a hard time feeling too sorry for the dads on here but I think my family has had a pretty lopsided sleep deprivation with me being the one up at all hours and nursing and pumping and my husband sleeping through anything. So I will try to overlook how my family works and imagine some of you dads are also tired. Although you're not up peeing 5x/night during pregnancy.

Well, some of the older gentlemen may be up peeing 5x/night, too...hahaha

6 times.  one for each decade.

 That's within the ballpark for my marathons.

That's what you get for having a squirrel bladder Smile

 I don't know for sure, but at 45, every body part starts shrinking ...
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Re: Sleep and Training

Post  Mark B on Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:34 pm

@Nick Morris wrote:
@Jerry wrote:
@mountandog wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Julie wrote:
@T Miller wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Nick Morris wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@Schuey wrote:Haha sleep what is that?

It's what you get when you're little one becomes a teenager and sleeps in until the crack of noon.

Until then? Well, I feel for ya, buddy.

You make fatherhood sound so fun.  I can't wait for my shot at it...Smile

Heh. You know how they say in acts of extreme endurance sports, that you reach a point to where you just can't go any farther... but find to your everlasting surprise that you have opened some untapped well deep within you and you find yourself carrying on stronger than you ever imagined possible?

Yeah, parenthood can be just like that sometimes. Especially at 3 a.m.

Like

So True

 
I have a hard time feeling too sorry for the dads on here but I think my family has had a pretty lopsided sleep deprivation with me being the one up at all hours and nursing and pumping and my husband sleeping through anything. So I will try to overlook how my family works and imagine some of you dads are also tired. Although you're not up peeing 5x/night during pregnancy.

Well, some of the older gentlemen may be up peeing 5x/night, too...hahaha

6 times.  one for each decade.

 That's within the ballpark for my marathons.

That's what you get for having a squirrel bladder Smile

 And elephant kidneys. Wink
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