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Post  Nick Morris on Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:17 pm

What are your thoughts on the news that USA's Tyson Gay tested positive for a banned substance?  I find it disappointing, especially since he had been marketing himself as an anti-doping runner.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tyson-gay-tests-positive-banned-143738384--spt.html
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  JohnP on Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:43 pm

That is pretty shocking news, it's too bad. There is so much money in sponsorships and endorsements that this will continue to happen.
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:39 pm

It just makes me so mad I could spit.
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Post  fostever on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:09 pm

Michele \"1L" Keane wrote:It just makes me so mad I could spit.

 Go 'head spit! Pretty disgusting, but NOT surprising!
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  dot520 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:37 am

I suppose it's not surprising, but I question whether anyone races drug/doping free.  What about the course records...are those bogus too.  I know that if everyone dopes then it's a fair playing field...just curious if those that come in 6th and 7th place in a heat are on their own and racing clean.  Too bad.
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  Michael Enright on Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:27 am

He should switch to cycling in time for next yours Tour de France!
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  Dave-O on Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:15 am

My first thought when I saw that a US sprinter and two Jamaican sprinters had tested positive was - "Please not Usain!"
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Post  healdgator on Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:04 pm

Sad.  I'd like to say surprising, but I can't.
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  John Kilpatrick on Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:30 pm

As someone who has never really followed track until the last several years - these people are not making it easy....  Who is next?  Galen?  Ryan?  Meb?  Dathan?  I guess nothing would surprise me...

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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  ssilvert on Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:40 pm

Right now we're short on details.  Let's wait until we find out exactly what was in his system and what his explanation is.

Nutrition supplements seem to be the cause of many of these positive tests.  You never know what's in them so you are playing Russian Roulette when you take them.  The rules say it's your own fault no matter how something got into your system.

The Science of Sport guys suggested that maybe runners should stop taking supplements all together.  There is little evidence that they help much so maybe it's not worth the risk.


It may be the catalyst for education - stay away from supplements, dear athletes.  There is little evidence that they work anyway, so the upside is small, and as you can see from Asafa and co, the downside is potentially enormous.
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2013/07/a-house-of-cards-sprinting-crisis-as.html

 
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  Dave-O on Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:31 pm

Thanks for providing that link Stan.  It's a good, fair summary of both sides of the coin.  It will definitely be interesting to see how the Jamaicans and Gay frame their defense.
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  Ben Z on Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:49 pm

Very sad indeed. At his level you have to know what is going in to your body and not "be letdown by somebody" as Gay is claiming now. That's a BS argument as far as I am concerned.

The rumor is that a supplement has been making its way around the sprinting community. I'm guessing these are the only ones who got caught but many more are probably taking it as well.

Things just got a lot easier for Bolt this year as now the next three guys (Blake is injured, Gay and Powell are now banned) won't be in Moscow next month.

Adidas suspended Gay's sponsorship today too.

Not good for Rudy. Not good at all.
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  healdgator on Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:08 am

If you are taking a new supplement that is supposed to give you an edge over your competitors, that should be taken as an indicator that you shouldn't be taking it.  These guys aren't new to the sport.  They've seen tons of their brethren test positive due to supplements.  It's pretty clear the potential reward justifies the potential risk to these guys.
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  ssilvert on Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:32 am

Ben Z wrote:
Things just got a lot easier for Bolt this year as now the next three guys (Blake is injured, Gay and Powell are now banned) won't be in Moscow next month.
That may be the saddest part, at least for fans.  Bolt with nobody to challenge him is just boring.

Bring on the distance runners!

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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  Nick Morris on Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:50 am

Ben Z wrote:Very sad indeed. At his level you have to know what is going in to your body and not "be letdown by somebody" as Gay is claiming now. That's a BS argument as far as I am concerned.

I agree.  It doesn't matter who gives you it.  At that level you should know what you are taking.  To me this seems like a way to place the blame on someone else.
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  healdgator on Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:48 am

Nick Morris wrote:
Ben Z wrote:Very sad indeed. At his level you have to know what is going in to your body and not "be letdown by somebody" as Gay is claiming now. That's a BS argument as far as I am concerned.

I agree.  It doesn't matter who gives you it.  At that level you should know what you are taking.  To me this seems like a way to place the blame on someone else.
He's not making excuses, but it was somebody else's fault.
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  Nick Morris on Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:23 pm

healdgator wrote:
Nick Morris wrote:
Ben Z wrote:Very sad indeed. At his level you have to know what is going in to your body and not "be letdown by somebody" as Gay is claiming now. That's a BS argument as far as I am concerned.

I agree.  It doesn't matter who gives you it.  At that level you should know what you are taking.  To me this seems like a way to place the blame on someone else.
He's not making excuses, but it was somebody else's fault.

Exactly...
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  Kenny B. on Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:27 pm

Beautiful. Sums up what people value more.
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Re: Gay and Powell Test Positive...

Post  Jim fredericks on Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:19 pm

Michael Enright wrote:He should switch to cycling in time for next yours Tour de France!

 Or take Ryan Braun's place on the Brewers.
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