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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Sat Oct 04, 2014 1:11 pm

So it is official - I ran 14.1 miles this morning in the same time that it took Denis Kimetto to run 26.2 and set the world record.  Damn, I'm a slacker! Decent week though as 12 of that 14 was done at MP.  As always, I'm not sure I can withstand that pace in NY, but we will see wont we.  This week might be low on the mileage end (should be 43 after tomorrow) but big on the quality end.  Tuesday night's track session was our standard 3K, 2K, 1K, 800m set up but with only 90 sec rest, and Thursday's night's tempo was 8.5 miles (10.5 total), so my legs were feeling it this morning.  Top that off with cold temperatures (45F at the start) and a pretty good wind.  The wind picked up over the run but it really doesn't affect you that much when on the bike path since it is pretty secluded and shaded in the woods, but where it was noticeable was when you would pop out into the open spots.  Good run though.
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Post  Julie on Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:24 pm

Not a slacker! Still much faster than I'll ever be. Congrats on the good run.
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Post  Tom H on Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:39 am

Looks like you are right on track for a good race.  12 miles at MP has got to give you a good feeling for your fitness, and I read nothing between the lines that made it look like you were anything but confident in it!
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:48 am

Last tough week of mileage as it will round out with a 20-21 on Saturday over the hills south of here in Hinckley.  No buzzards this time of year unless they come back to pick up dead runners on the hilly roads or bridle path.  We will run the roads since our marathon is on the roads, but some of the group will run the bridle trail.  http://www.clevelandmetroparks.com/Main/Reservations-Partners/Hinckley-Reservation-8.aspx

Anyway prior to tomorrow's long run, this week has been populated with two tough runs that both turned out much better than expected.  On Tuesday the track workout for those of us not running Columbus (which is next week) was the ever popular 3k, 2K, 1 mile, 1K interval workout that we've been doing only with a 90 sec rest.  The idea is to run each repeat at a faster pace (half marathon, 10K, 5K, 3K) and this time we really nailed it starting with a 14:08 3K, followed by a 9:09 2K, 7:02 mile, and a 4:20 1K.  I'm very pleased as I could barely run a 4:30-4:35 1K back in June when I first re-started speedwork.  I'm also pleased as last fall, I could barely run a 7:19 mile and I was all out running a 7:00 mile one workout where I made my fast friend, Karyn, pull me through.  After my core class on Wednesday, I ran 5 very easy miles at a 9:10 ave pace which felt very easy.


Last night was the test again with the tempo run.  Finally we had a good weather evening (last week it was close to 80F again) as fall has indeed arrived (it is this time of year that living on the lake is nice as our temps only were in the low 40s this morning but no frost like in other parts of NE Ohio) and at 6 PM last evening, the temp was a beautiful 57F with 51% humidity - pretty much ideal as we welcomed dusk during the run.  The idea of these runs is to warm up easy and then run 7 miles getting down to close to half marathon pace.  We've been hedging that some with the warmer weather and running a bit slower and staying around 8:15s.  Last night, we averaged 7:59 for the 7 miles and it felt pretty normal - we were even talking some during the run to pass the time.  Not a bad thing to do!  I never really looked at my watch during the run, so I was pretty happy when I go home and downloaded the data on Garmin connect.  I did not anticipate what I saw especially since it didn't feel like as much effort as that seems to dictate.


Now we all know that I am "a middle distance" runner in that a fast half marathon (for me) is still not out of my grasp, but I am in decent shape going into this marathon and if the stars align and the weather (and crowds) cooperate, I should be able to run my 3:50 goal or even slightly better.  We, of course, will see.
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Post  Mark B on Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:10 am

First off, I checked out the website for the park in Hinkley. Even if you're on the roads, it looks like it'll be quite pretty, especially this time of year. Are the leaves getting colorful yet? They're just starting here.

Second, congrats on all the improvements in this cycle! It's so wonderful when the magic happens and you can clearly see the benefit of all your hard work. You're in a good place for a great race in NYC.
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:23 pm

Ok, let's see if this works.  Well, I guess that it does.  Last long run this morning over the hills at Hinckley, and I can tell you that Boston ain't got nothing on those hills.  We ran a bit slower than i might have by myself, but as my McMillan coach has said on many an occasion - "It is all about time on your feet", not your pace especially at the (almost) end of a tough week.  Weather was a bit cooler than expected as it is much warmer here on the lake then it is inland and the Hinckley Reservation is about 45 min south of here, but we managed.  It is funny that one will still wear shorts and long sleeves (and gloves) in October, but I bet I would have had tights on had it been March.  Legs are a bit tired and my left IT band was feeling the hills at the end, but we did it and it sure feels good to be done.

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Post  Mark B on Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:09 pm

Nicely done! Now, the big question: Does 1L still get taper madness?
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Post  nkrichards on Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:32 pm

Well it looks like you're well prepared and we all know that you know what to do on race day...let's just hope the stars are aligned and the weather and crowds cooperate.
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Post  Tom H on Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:12 am

Sounds like you are in a good place mentally and confidence-wise.  Goodness knows you've had lots of experience.  And that begs the question that Mark asked, but I've got a follow up.  Since you've had such experience there, what are some of your more interesting Taper stories - at least the ones you can share?
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:31 pm

9 miles this morning to get 50 in for the week.  Felt surprisingly good and started off slow doing the first 3 miles on the bridle trail and then met the group and did our normal Sunday morning 10K.  Actually ran the last two miles at MP and under and felt great doing it.  Of course maybe the 36F helped as we were a bit cold!

As for taper stories, I'd say that most revolve more around my obsessing over time and race strategy when I am approaching a marathon as a race. Remember I'm an anal engineer and I break courses down with precision thinking I can execute to the nth degree.  Sometimes it works, but more often than not, it doesn't - lol.  The last couple of years (and this one too), I'll be by myself the couple of weeks prior to the race, so it will involve a lot of hand wringing over splits and the course.  If I know I'm in good shape, the race brain takes over, but if I'm just trying to finish, then I really don't do too much obsessing at all.

The good news is that currently I am watching a Browns football game right now, and I'm not sure where this team came from?  Up 21 to 3 over the Stillers at the half - what?  Roethlisberger is 18-1 over CLE, but to me, he is a scumbag who hit on college girls in middle GA, so lose he can.  Go Browns Go!
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Post  Gobbles on Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:43 pm

New York should be fun!
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Post  Julie on Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:43 pm

Welcome to taper! You know how I taper. I wish I had memorized where all the aid stations were but knew roughly, either way, it sounds like you go about it the smarter way, I just freak about everything.
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:48 am

Well, the shit just got real this week as bib assignments and corrals for NY were released on the 15th.  I am bib number 17535 and in the Green Wave 1, Corral E, so I start at 9:40 with the elites.  Now I'm in the 2nd to last corral and on the bottom of the bridge which is pretty much where I was in 2011 (except I was in the last corral then).  My friend and I were wondering how the heck we got in the first wave, but we also have to realize that our guaranteed times submitted were both 10 min faster than the listed time and the average marathon time at NY is around 4:35 - so out of the 50K+ runners, maybe we are actually in the top percentage.  Anyway, we will start at the back where the 3:35 (gulp!) pacer will be.  

Overall, I've been pretty tired this week, but I have been putting in the work.  Our Tuesday workout consisted of 2 x 2K, 2 x 1mile, and 1 x 1k - and although we thought we were a bit slow, mister Garmin revealed that we were actually a bit faster.  What we fail to remember or try to consider is that we measure laps as if we are running in lane 1, and due to the band and football, we actually run a lot of each lap in lanes 3 and 4.  There are benches (and felt mats under them) along with garbage cans and the band leaders ladder all in the first two lanes down each straightaway so we are forced to run outside them.  This actually makes each lap longer than 400m.  That being said, mister Garmin measured our mile average as 6:53.  Now it has been a long time since I ran miles with the number "6" in front, and looking back at last year, I struggled before Indy to run miles down around 7:15.  So I'm definitely getting somewhere.  Being that I was tired, last night I only ran 5 at tempo rather than the 7 on the schedule, and my tempo miles splits were 8:17, 7:56, 7:34 (slight downhill), 7:41 (slight uphill), and 7:52 (abrupt left hand turn and up hill the last 400m).  I'm very pleased with that effort especially since it was a cooler night (58F) but the humidity was very high (90%) as it rained right after we finished.
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Post  Gobbles on Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:34 pm

It just got realish!!!
I'm trying to convince myself I'm ready-ish to run.

How are you getting to the start line?
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:49 pm

Stephen - we are taking the bus from the library.
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Post  Mike MacLellan on Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:19 pm

Those are nice tempo miles.  I'm not surprised you're in the first wave - at the bare minimum, with your experience, you deserve it Wink

Just over 2 weeks to go...!
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Post  Mark B on Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:50 pm

Very nice splits! Maybe you'll give that 3:35 pacer a run for his money. Smile
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Post  mul21 on Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:37 pm

Michele \"1L" Keane wrote:Stephen - we are taking the bus from the library.

Go this route-super easy and no waiting at the library because they've got about 1,000 buses ready and waiting for runners.
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Post  Tom H on Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:57 pm

You are looking good!  Seems like you are ready both physically and mentally, and you are in a super position corral-wise to feed off the energy of others.  Can't wait to see you go!
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:40 am

I know I should be happier but I'm not super pleased with yesterday's half marathon.  Why you might say as the splits look good and I did go slower in the first half than the 2nd with no real blips except for one pit stop?  I just wasn't feeling it and I wasn't pleased with my execution. First of, when I woke up yesterday morning my lower back on the right side was incredibly tight and although I really didn't feel it running, it is still very sore and tight and I need to get it loosened up.  I made an appointment with my massage therapist for that. Who knows what triggered it as I get this sometimes and it should be fine, but it is still annoying.

As for the race, I did go out faster than I wanted to in that my MP should really be around 8:35 and as you can see I only had one slow mile and that was when I made a pit stop.  The weather was absolutely perfect in that it was in the low 40s at the start, but my legs were tired and I never felt like I was really in sync.  I did accomplish my goal in that my miles progressed well (there is a slight decline in miles 3-4 and an incline in miles 5.5-7, and I even accelerated up High St (last 2 miles) which is a gradual climb.  I'm sure that I shouldn't be too critical, but I am of course.  

Day off today and hopefully I'll get my sore right lower back to ease up.  Better today than the day before NY.

 
Location
Race Time
Time of Day
Pace Between
Overall Place
Division Place
Sex Place
Age Graded Place
Passed / By
Time
1:47:33
9:19:11
7:58
1071/10411
11/384
354/6827
194/10411
335/21
10K
52:48
8:24:26
8:30
1557/10381
18/382
591/6808
269/10381
180/316
ChipStart
2:08
7:31:39
1192/10411
12/384
435/6827
435/10411
GunStart
00:00
7:29:32

Split
Time
Distance
Avg Pace
Summary
1:47:34.1
13.26
8:07
1
8:22.2
1.00
8:22
2
8:24.3
1.00
8:24
3
8:11.3
1.00
8:11
4
8:47.0
1.00
8:47
5
8:13.9
1.00
8:14
6
8:12.2
1.00
8:12
7
8:16.9
1.00
8:17
8
8:11.7
1.00
8:12
9
7:59.5
1.00
7:59
10
7:50.2
1.00
7:50
11
7:48.7
1.00
7:49
12
7:48.3
1.00
7:48
13
7:30.7
1.00
7:31
14
1:57.3
0.26
7:23
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Post  Mark B on Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:55 pm

Nice half! And don't worry about how it felt. You're in taper, remember? Your runs are supposed to feel bad.

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Post  Julie on Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:30 pm

Looks great to me but I'm sorry you felt like it didn't go too well. I hope tapering is treating you OK.
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Post  Tom H on Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:56 pm

That looks like a pretty good taper half if you ask me! You had a lot of positives and you clearly recognize the points you want to improve on. Sounds like the definition of a tune-up race!!
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Post  ounce on Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:46 pm

@Mark B wrote:Nice half! And don't worry about how it felt. You're in taper, remember? Your runs are supposed to feel bad.


A unique form of TAPER MADNESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

You did have a good race, now let the madness continue its trek throughout the next two weeks.  Resistance is futile.
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Post  mountandog on Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:22 pm

looked good to me
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