365Runners
Welcome to 365Runners! We are here because we all share a running addiction. Whether training for a first marathon, a new PR, a new race distance, or anything else... welcome!

To stop the banner ads, please register and login. Otherwise, please enjoy browsing as a guest.

Concentrating when tired

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Concentrating when tired

Post  ounce on Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:27 pm

How do y'all concentrate on running the tangents when you're tired and the legs are not as strong in the later miles? 

I make it job 1 to run the tangents, but I get a little wobbly during the last 6 miles, so I'm not as straight.  Thanks for your time.
avatar
ounce
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 4757
Points : 13102
Join date : 2011-06-26
Age : 60
Location : houston

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Mike MacLellan on Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:43 pm

"People on 365Runners.com are watching my splits.  Don't mess this up."
avatar
Mike MacLellan
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 3099
Points : 7428
Join date : 2011-06-14
Age : 30
Location : Arlington, VA

View user profile http://www.facebook.com/mike.a.maclellan

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Mark B on Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:54 pm

@Mike MacLellan wrote:"People on 365Runners.com are watching my splits.  Don't mess this up."

^^^This.

And reminding yourself that it's supposed to be difficult at that point. Those previous 18 miles were just the warm-up for the real race -- against yourself.
avatar
Mark B
Needs A Life
Needs A Life

Posts : 7236
Points : 15603
Join date : 2011-06-15
Age : 54
Location : Vancouver, Wash.

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  nkrichards on Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:09 pm

@Mark B wrote:
@Mike MacLellan wrote:"People on 365Runners.com are watching my splits.  Don't mess this up."

^^^This.

And reminding yourself that it's supposed to be difficult at that point. Those previous 18 miles were just the warm-up for the real race -- against yourself.

AND...remind yourself that you'll finish this nonsense more quickly if you continue to run the tangents...
avatar
nkrichards
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 1981
Points : 6850
Join date : 2011-07-27
Age : 59
Location : Sunny Central Oregon

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:26 am

I assume you are talking about during a race?  Unfortunately, I wish I could say that I pay enough attention to the tangents, but most often I do not run small enough races i.e. lots of runners to really be able to pay a ton of attention or think about it.  In the latter miles, I do concentrate more on my breathing and how I feel and if the course allows, I pretty much try to gravitate to the tangents if possible.  For me, often the latter miles are about maintaining my groove or if I'm feeling great, picking up the pace.  I really don't worry too much about the tangents then.
avatar
Michele "1L" Keane
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 4748
Points : 11120
Join date : 2011-06-15
Age : 55
Location : Cleveland (Bay Village), OH/Atlanta, GA

View user profile http://1lranthere.blogspot.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  mountandog on Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:40 am

simple answer - my mantra: "I do not want to be out here one second longer than necessary.  Shorter is better.  I can lie down sooner."
avatar
mountandog
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 1392
Points : 5545
Join date : 2011-07-14
Age : 61
Location : Michigan

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Penelope on Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:07 pm

I think I let go of the tangents in the later miles of races, too.  By then, I'm just trying not to die at the pace I'm at Smile  In addition to the above comments, I found it annoying when my GPS would say I ran 13.25 miles (and thus a better pace than the actual race result pace)  and that would be enough to motivate me to continue tangent-ing.
avatar
Penelope
Poster
Poster

Posts : 412
Points : 3226
Join date : 2011-06-22
Age : 36
Location : Chicago

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  fostever on Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:29 pm

Bodyglove is supposed to eliminate that fuzzy mind thing, haven't tried it yet, but if you do let me know?
avatar
fostever
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 1320
Points : 5193
Join date : 2011-06-16
Age : 58
Location : Chicago

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Admin on Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:01 pm

The tangents are pretty low on my list of race priorities.  In fact, in some races and on some courses running the tangents can waste effort unnecessarily.  For me, that's just not a huge point of focus.

Admin
Admin

Posts : 889
Points : 3836
Join date : 2011-06-14

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Jim Lentz on Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:19 pm

I practice it on training runs so that is becomes natural. It is surprising how many people don't do this even when they have the space in a race.
avatar
Jim Lentz
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 1171
Points : 4357
Join date : 2011-06-15
Age : 56
Location : Downers Grove

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Nick Morris on Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:13 pm

I yell at myself to stay focused on what I have been training for.
avatar
Nick Morris
Talking To Myself
Talking To Myself

Posts : 5109
Points : 11933
Join date : 2011-06-16
Age : 37
Location : Madison, WI

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Schuey on Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:52 pm

For me it comes down to one basic thing and I remember saying to a guy in the final mile at Boston in 2011.

No matter what it is going to hurt, so I might as well make all the hurt count.

Another words personally for me if I was to give in and lose focus the pain and hurt from the race is going to be there. So, when I start to lose my focus I just refocus myself on the fact that no matter what it is going to hurt so I'm going to make the hurt count. I do that by putting the pedal to metal and giving a 100% and then more and whether I reach my goal or not, at least in the end I will know that I made all the hurt and pain in the end count!
avatar
Schuey
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 2160
Points : 5434
Join date : 2011-06-15
Age : 46
Location : So Many Roads To Ease My Soul

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Jerry on Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:36 pm

I recently watched this DVD

Dr. Stan Beecham- Run with your Body; Race with your Mind (New)


It confirms what I have come to believe. I am surprised I had exactly the same line as Dr Beecham has in the presentation in the DVD, like everybody is hurting during the race.


Marathon is about the last 6 miles. It is about concentration. If you can't, you might just quit. If you don't believe you can, you will not.
avatar
Jerry
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 2708
Points : 1004190
Join date : 2011-06-15
Location : Where I'm Loved

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:20 pm

Beecham has a great book too called "Elite Minds".  I re-read it often during marathon training.
avatar
Michele "1L" Keane
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 4748
Points : 11120
Join date : 2011-06-15
Age : 55
Location : Cleveland (Bay Village), OH/Atlanta, GA

View user profile http://1lranthere.blogspot.com

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Jerry on Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:29 am

Michele \"1L" Keane wrote:Beecham has a great book too called "Elite Minds".  I re-read it often during marathon training.
I'm reading it
avatar
Jerry
Explaining To Spouse
Explaining To Spouse

Posts : 2708
Points : 1004190
Join date : 2011-06-15
Location : Where I'm Loved

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: Concentrating when tired

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum