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The Beauty of the McMillan Running Calculator

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Post  Ben Z Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:53 pm

One thing I've always liked when reviewing the prediction times using the calculator is the difference between the 20mi and full marathon paces. At my current goal the difference is 7 sec/mile.

For a 3 hr marathoner the difference is 8 sec/mi. At 4hr it's 9-10.

If that's not a reason to start conservative in a marathon I don't know what is - the numbers dont lie!
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Post  Stephanie Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:08 pm

Ben Z wrote:For a 3 hr marathoner the difference is 8 sec/mi. At 4hr it's 9-10.

If that's not a reason to start conservative in a marathon I don't know what is - the numbers dont lie!
Pardon my lack of knowledge but I'm a relative newbie and would love it if you would elaborate. I don't want to miss your point.
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Post  Mike MacLellan Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:49 pm

Stephanie - I believe he's referring to the race pace (in minutes per mile) for a runner at a given fitness level who is running 20 miles vs. a marathon. Since the full is 10k farther, the pace will be slower, as your pace will decrease for any race as the distance increases. McMillan's calculator sets up "equivalents," meaning if you can run a certain pace for one distance, you should be able to run the "equivalent" pace at a different distance at your given fitness level. So, if you run a 3hr marathon, your pace is ~6:50min/mi for that race, but you could sustain a 6:42min/mi pace for a 20 mile run... You'd just blow up and slow considerably after that. Hence, even that minor 8 second difference could mean the difference between a perfect race and a terrible last 10k.
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Post  mountandog Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:25 pm

+1 good answer Mike -- those 8 seconds are killer
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Post  Ben Z Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:57 pm

Mike MacLellan wrote:Stephanie - I believe he's referring to the race pace (in minutes per mile) for a runner at a given fitness level who is running 20 miles vs. a marathon. Since the full is 10k farther, the pace will be slower, as your pace will decrease for any race as the distance increases. McMillan's calculator sets up "equivalents," meaning if you can run a certain pace for one distance, you should be able to run the "equivalent" pace at a different distance at your given fitness level. So, if you run a 3hr marathon, your pace is ~6:50min/mi for that race, but you could sustain a 6:42min/mi pace for a 20 mile run... You'd just blow up and slow considerably after that. Hence, even that minor 8 second difference could mean the difference between a perfect race and a terrible last 10k.

Exactly. Don't get greedy despite feeling fresh from the taper. You'll pay for it if you are not careful.
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Post  Stephanie Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:32 pm

Awesome explanation Mike!! Thanks for explaining this to me!! I'm going to mark this thread for future reference.
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