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Post  Kenny B. Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:56 am

Just looking over some #'s what are your best 3 distance when considering WAVA AGE GRADE.

BEST

5k = 65.2%

10m = 63.5%

HM = 62.6%

Worst: Marathon currently is my worst WAVA Grade 60.6% but looking to change that this year! Hope to change that this year!
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Post  Dave-O Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:12 pm

I never realized how tightly correlated by 5k through half-marathon times are:

5k = 82.25
8k = 82.12
10k = 82.45
10 mile = 82.91
Half = 82.94

Boo!

Mar: 80.81
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Post  Alex Kubacki Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:22 pm

5K - 69.26

15K - 65.46

1/2 Mar - 65.27

Marathon - 57.34 Like Kenny I hope this gets improved big time this fall.

I don't have a current 10K time.
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Post  sir digby Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:24 pm

5k - 68.7

half - 62.88

full - 62.05

only 3 distances I've raced. My full is so low because my PR was a horribly windy day that I didn't adjust for and crashed and I my last half was 13 months ago so it's lagging a bit. I need to race more.


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Post  jdholland Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:26 pm

Mine appear pretty close until you consider the fact that both the 5 and 10K were run at an altitude over 6,000 feet and the marathon was in Chicago.

5K - 71.3

10K - 71.4

Marathon - 70.6
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Post  Matt W Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:10 pm

mile: 88.34
5K: 83.79
8K: 82.94
10K: 80.03
1/2: 84.33
Mar: 83.09
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Post  Mike MacLellan Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:24 pm

26.2: 66.49%

Recent 10k TT could go a couple ways, if you compensate for the hills. But 69-71%
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Post  JohnP Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:25 pm

Matt W wrote:mile: 88.34
5K: 83.79
8K: 82.94
10K: 80.03
1/2: 84.33
Mar: 83.09

Matt, this is interesting. Wouldn't yuo expect a linear line down for a fast-twitch person? yet you go down and then up. Maybe you are slacking in the 10K races Smile
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Post  Matt W Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:39 pm

JohnP wrote:
Matt W wrote:mile: 88.34
5K: 83.79
8K: 82.94
10K: 80.03
1/2: 84.33
Mar: 83.09

Matt, this is interesting. Wouldn't yuo expect a linear line down for a fast-twitch person? yet you go down and then up. Maybe you are slacking in the 10K races Smile

The bold print is the absolute truth. That, and I don't run them very often and never in great shape for a 10K.

I really don't think of myself as a fast twitch person. I was needed more for middle distance races/relays in college so that's how I trained. I've had a lot more chances to run miles/1500s/1600s than any other race too, so that helps. My 5K PR is doubling back from a steeplechase (and a 5M cooldown run), 8K is on a hilly XC course, and I didn't really run the longer races until the last few years. If I would have run more than 25 miles/week in my 20s, those PRs would probably be closer to the mile time.
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Post  Jerry Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:42 pm

1500m: 78.68
5k: 77.26
10k: 77.46
half: 77.31
marathon: 72.27
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Post  Chris M Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:41 pm

1 Mile: 76.15
5K: 75.03
10K: 74.59
Half: 73.66
Marathon: 68.61 (PLUMMET!)
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Post  Dave-O Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:43 pm

Chris M wrote:1 Mile: 76.15
5K: 75.03
10K: 74.59
Half: 73.66
Marathon: 68.61 (PLUMMET!)

This is beautiful....everytime you complain about more mileage I'm just responding with this chart.
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Post  Julie Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:57 pm

I guess I'm not the best at longer distances....well, I'm slow at everything.

10K 57.49%
half 57.26
Marathon 53.8
50K 49.6
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Post  Alex Kubacki Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:06 pm

Small sample but interesting so far that for most the shorter the race the higher the percentage.
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Post  Jim Lentz Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:16 pm

Mile - 71.67%
5K - 69.46%
10K - 69.98%
1/2 - 70.41%
Full - 66.28%
50K - 57.71%
50M - 55.74%
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Post  KBFitz Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:41 pm

Some data from me, for what it's worth.

5K (2010)
78.01%
8K (2009)
75.04%
10K (2010)
76.13%
10M (2009)
74.72%
half marathon (2010)
75.01%
marathon (2009)
72.96%
Looks like Dave-O, Matt W and Dave B are pushing National Class level. Cool, dudes! Best 3 distance WAVA Age Grade Headbang
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Post  Dave Bussard Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:02 pm

I'm much better in the shorter races...Someday, I will run a 90% for the Half Marathon!!!!

My top 5 are all 5k's... 91.78, 91.26, 90.95, 90.52, 90.49
Next 5 are 10K 90.45, 5K 90.14, 20K 89.83, 5K 89.75 & 5K 89.68

All of these were run in the last 3 years. Best HM is only a 89.45, best marathon is a 75.72. Ha!...

What a difference 10 years makes...I could barely run an 80 in a race ten years ago. These days my tempo's are 84-85% ! Un-freakin-believable...
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Post  Gobbles Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:11 pm

Interesting...

400m: 71.8%
800m: 74.0%
mile: 72.4%
5K: 74.1%
10K: 75.5%
1/2: 72.6%
Mar: 67.9%
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Post  Dave-O Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:24 pm

Dave Bussard wrote:I'm much better in the shorter races...Someday, I will run a 90% for the Half Marathon!!!!

My top 5 are all 5k's... 91.78, 91.26, 90.95, 90.52, 90.49
Next 5 are 10K 90.45, 5K 90.14, 20K 89.83, 5K 89.75 & 5K 89.68

All of these were run in the last 3 years. Best HM is only a 89.45, best marathon is a 75.72. Ha!...

What a difference 10 years makes...I could barely run an 80 in a race ten years ago. These days my tempo's are 84-85% ! Un-freakin-believable...

You're a big time inspiration Dave! Anytime I think I'm done getting faster, I think of you still out there busting your tail after being in the sport so long.

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Post  Mark B Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:27 pm

I don't know if I've raced often enough to get good set of data points to compare, but it looks like there's enough data to reassure those front-runner types that their spots on the podium are safe, at least from me:

5k: 58.14%
Half: 60.61% (first half of marathon)
Marathon: 59.5%



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Post  John Kilpatrick Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:38 pm

5K (last year) = 64.38
10K (this year) = 70.79
15K (last year) = 65.47
Marathon (this year) = 61.01

This is a pretty impressive group!

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~local classKenny, Digby, Julie, Mark, John K
~regional classjd, Mike, Jerry, Chris, Jim, KB, Gobbles
~National classDave-O, Matt
~World classDave B

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Post  Kenny B. Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:42 pm

John Kilpatrick wrote:5K (last year) = 64.38
10K (this year) = 70.79
15K (last year) = 65.47
Marathon (this year) = 61.01

This is a pretty impressive group!

classperson
~local classKenny, Digby, Julie, Mark, John K
~regional classjd, Mike, Jerry, Chris, Jim, KB, Gobbles
~National classDave-O, Matt
~World classDave B

Is local class seems so well local. How local like one zip code or county. Lol
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Post  John Kilpatrick Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:44 pm

Kenny B. wrote:
John Kilpatrick wrote:5K (last year) = 64.38
10K (this year) = 70.79
15K (last year) = 65.47
Marathon (this year) = 61.01

This is a pretty impressive group!

classperson
~local classKenny, Digby, Julie, Mark, John K
~regional classjd, Mike, Jerry, Chris, Jim, KB, Gobbles
~National classDave-O, Matt
~World classDave B

Is local class seems so well local. How local like one zip code or county. Lol

It is better to have local class than no class!!!

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Post  Mike MacLellan Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:48 pm

I think you're giving me a boost I don't deserve there, John. Isn't it 60-70 = local, 70-80 = regional? I'm 66. But I'll take 70 Very Happy
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Post  Mark B Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:06 am

Mike MacLellan wrote:I think you're giving me a boost I don't deserve there, John. Isn't it 60-70 = local, 70-80 = regional? I'm 66. But I'll take 70 Very Happy

At this point, Mike, I'll happily benefit from a little grade inflation. Wink
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