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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:06 pm

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Post  Mike MacLellan on Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:16 pm

He's heelstriking in that photo. No way he can run that fast. What a Face
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Post  Nick Morris on Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:29 pm

@Mike MacLellan wrote:He's heelstriking in that photo. No way he can run that fast. What a Face

Says who??? lol!
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Post  Mike MacLellan on Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:26 pm

@Nick Morris wrote:
@Mike MacLellan wrote:He's heelstriking in that photo. No way he can run that fast. What a Face

Says who??? lol!

Science.
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Post  John Kilpatrick on Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:14 pm

Science also said there were 109 elements in the Periodic Table. There are at least 115 and counting...

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Post  fostever on Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:09 pm

That's a typical photo off a foot fall from that perspective (front,) doesn't mean it's a solid heel strike. As fast as he's running that foot barely touches. A mid foot strike with some outside roll looks exactly like that from the front. I see some of these barefoot runners running tippy tippy toes with their arms held up like a squirel, what a joke!
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Post  Mark B on Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:45 pm

@fostever wrote:That's a typical photo off a foot fall from that perspective (front,) doesn't mean it's a solid heel strike. As fast as he's running that foot barely touches. A mid foot strike with some outside roll looks exactly like that from the front. I see some of these barefoot runners running tippy tippy toes with their arms held up like a squirel, what a joke!

Hey. My arms don't look squirrelly!

BTW, note the date of the photo is 1983... midsoles weren't nearly as plush as they are nowadays. More conducive to a midfoot strike rather than a rearfoot strike. Especially going as fast as he does.
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Post  Nick Morris on Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:05 pm

@fostever wrote:That's a typical photo off a foot fall from that perspective (front,) doesn't mean it's a solid heel strike. As fast as he's running that foot barely touches. A mid foot strike with some outside roll looks exactly like that from the front. I see some of these barefoot runners running tippy tippy toes with their arms held up like a squirel, what a joke!



HAHAHAHAHA!!
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Post  Jerry on Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:32 pm

I bet if he had iPod or red bull, he could run faster.
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:40 am

Jeez, I just thought it was kind of cool that he still has the course record after all these years. TCM is a fair course - just the right amount of hills and flat, and they offer a pretty decent purse for 2nd tier runners.
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Post  fostever on Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:48 pm

@Mark B wrote:
@fostever wrote:That's a typical photo off a foot fall from that perspective (front,) doesn't mean it's a solid heel strike. As fast as he's running that foot barely touches. A mid foot strike with some outside roll looks exactly like that from the front. I see some of these barefoot runners running tippy tippy toes with their arms held up like a squirel, what a joke!

Hey. My arms don't look squirrelly!

BTW, note the date of the photo is 1983... midsoles weren't nearly as plush as they are nowadays. More conducive to a midfoot strike rather than a rearfoot strike. Especially going as fast as he does.
Key word "some!" I too bought some Bikilas and think they serve a purpose. Not knocking all barefoot runners, Zola Budd really kicked butt in her day and still does, but I think she's using shoes now based on the last article I read about her. In 1983 there were some very thick sole trainers that flared out along with the usual racing flats. Running shoes have changed over time, being more durable in many cases, but aren't that much different, really.
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Post  Mark B on Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:38 pm

@fostever wrote:
@Mark B wrote:
@fostever wrote:That's a typical photo off a foot fall from that perspective (front,) doesn't mean it's a solid heel strike. As fast as he's running that foot barely touches. A mid foot strike with some outside roll looks exactly like that from the front. I see some of these barefoot runners running tippy tippy toes with their arms held up like a squirel, what a joke!

Hey. My arms don't look squirrelly!

BTW, note the date of the photo is 1983... midsoles weren't nearly as plush as they are nowadays. More conducive to a midfoot strike rather than a rearfoot strike. Especially going as fast as he does.
Key word "some!" I too bought some Bikilas and think they serve a purpose. Not knocking all barefoot runners, Zola Budd really kicked butt in her day and still does, but I think she's using shoes now based on the last article I read about her. In 1983 there were some very thick sole trainers that flared out along with the usual racing flats. Running shoes have changed over time, being more durable in many cases, but aren't that much different, really.

Oh, don't mind me. I was just stirring the pot. But thanks for not comparing me to a squirrel. Wink

Yes, there was a lot of foam back in those days, but gel packs and air compartments were just starting to hit the scene (I think Air Pegs launched in 1983) - and a lot of the engineering of dubious benefit was yet to come.
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Post  Dave-O on Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:34 pm

Very interesting story. Makes you wonder what he could have done with the perks today's professional runners have.

On the other hand, it goes to show that there's no substitute for mileage. Sounds like he was routinely running 120 miles per week and cranking out some hard 20 milers.

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Post  Dave-O on Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:35 pm

I also wonder (and am too lazy to research) what his HS times were to not be afforded a college scholarship.
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane on Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:52 am

@Mark B wrote:
Yes, there was a lot of foam back in those days, but gel packs and air compartments were just starting to hit the scene (I think Air Pegs launched in 1983) - and a lot of the engineering of dubious benefit was yet to come.

1982, I believe. I wore them for years, so I'll look at some old photos to see if I can tell. I also wore Asics Gel-Lytes and Saucony Dixons back then.
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Post  Mike MacLellan on Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:54 am

...Guys, I was being funny. What a Face
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