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It was a good 5K

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Post  Dave P Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:10 pm

Today's 5K was my last race until Boston.

Blue Back Square Mitten Run.

19:11, 4th place in AG out of 71. Not a PR, but it was decent. I hadn't gone under 20 the last few 5K's. Now I can concentrate my training on speed-endurance.
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Post  ounce Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:10 pm

And you left the race no worse for the wear.  Good luck on the training and appropriate weather for it.
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Post  Mark B Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:17 pm

Nice work, speedy! Congrats.
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Post  Jerry Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:10 pm

Speed endurance? We need to start the discussion how to tempo?
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Post  Dave P Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:28 pm

I think I could spend the rest of my life trying out the various descriptions of tempo runs.  lol!
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Post  amyjoann Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:14 pm

yes good job I'm curious how do you train for speed endurance?
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:40 pm

Nice work, Dave.
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Post  John Kilpatrick Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:15 pm

Great run Dave!

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Post  fostever Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:16 pm

Alright, you seem to be in top form right now. Congrats Dave!
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Post  Dave P Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:45 pm

AmyJoann, speed endurance is gained by 1, 2, or 3 mile repeats, & tempo runs of 3 to 7 miles long. Another option is picking up the speed for the last 3 to 8 miles of a long run. This all trains your body to go "fast" for a long time.
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Post  Dave Bussard Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:48 pm

Nice run but....why wouldn't you run another race before Boston? That's a long time away. Low key races are always nice tune-ups before goal races.

And...speaking of tempos. Have you ever tried Progressive Tempos? Nearly all of my tempo/fast days are progressive in nature, meaning...each mile is faster than the previous. Most are very controlled. Some are up to 10 miles, running each mile 6-10 seconds than the last. Shorter 3-4-5 mile runs start at HM pace than progress 5-10 sec/mile, or faster. Include a warmup & cooldown.

Those are my bread & butter workouts. Guaranteed to get you in great racing shape!
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Post  mountandog Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:19 pm

Dave Bussard wrote:Nice run but....why wouldn't you run another race before Boston? That's a long time away. Low key races are always nice tune-ups before goal races.

And...speaking of tempos. Have you ever tried Progressive Tempos? Nearly all of my tempo/fast days are progressive in nature, meaning...each mile is faster than the previous. Most are very controlled. Some are up to 10 miles, running each mile 6-10 seconds than the last. Shorter 3-4-5 mile runs start at HM pace than progress 5-10 sec/mile, or faster. Include a warmup & cooldown.

Those are my bread & butter workouts. Guaranteed to get you in great racing shape!

Good run.  I agree with DB.  Get another race or two in.  Short runs.  Hansons guys call them "rust busters" and find them valuable when placed properly.
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Post  Michele "1L" Keane Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:58 pm

Agreed with the "chose another race" before Boston.  Racing gets you in the mode and that is important.  I will run 4 half marathons in Feb and March - racing two and using the other two as marathon pace/fast finish runs.
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Post  Schuey Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:16 pm

Nice run Dave.

Oh I like the progressive tempo run, I also like doing the tempo interval style a lot too.
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